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Pluto no longer a planet?

  • Aug. 24th, 2006 at 11:13 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/08/24/pluto.ap/index.html

Egads. Think of all those textbooks that will have to be rewritten...

Pluto-less

Comments

[info]demoneyes wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 03:34 pm (UTC)
Pluto was automatically disqualified because its oblong orbit overlaps with Neptune's.

*Oblong* orbit? Hm, maybe we need to rewrite the physics textbooks too...

;-)
[info]demoneyes wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 03:56 pm (UTC)
Okay, so a little digging shows that 'oblong' also means elongated as well as rectangular. But that's not a usage I've ever come across before - perhaps it's less common over here.
[info]peteralway wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 04:23 pm (UTC)
Hmm. I've never heard the word "oblong" to mean rectangular.
[info]hrrunka wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 05:00 pm (UTC)
Ah. Another example of us being divided by a common language. I'd never heard the word "oblong" used to describe anything other than something (roughly) rectangular. ;)
[info]demoneyes wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 05:04 pm (UTC)
Must be a national thing - over here kids are usually taught the world 'oblong' long before they get taught 'rectangle'!

My Concise Oxford has the defn as

1) deviating from a square form by having one long axe esp rectangular with adjacent sides unequal
2) greater in breadth than in height

Of which the first defn is by far (to my knowledge) the more common over here. But obviously not over there! :-)
[info]peteralway wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 03:44 pm (UTC)
That's just wrong
[info]hrrunka wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 04:08 pm (UTC)
The IAU do seem to have taken that view. Personally I think their earlier draft definition was a little less subjective, but it would also have required considerable re-writing of text books.
[info]antonia_tiger wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 04:18 pm (UTC)
When I was a kid we used to have supersonic passenger transport, men walking on the Moon, sixpences in Christmas Puddings, and nine planets. Tell young people that today and they won't believe you.
[info]ohiblather wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 05:33 pm (UTC)
Hey, could I turn this into a comic? I'd give you credit, of course.
[info]antonia_tiger wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 06:08 pm (UTC)
Go ahead, but everyone will think you're riffing off of Monty Python's "Three Yorkshiremen".

[info]ohiblather wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 06:25 pm (UTC)
But I wouldn't have the idea if it weren't for you. How do you want me to credit you? "Antonia T."?
[info]ohiblather wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 06:59 pm (UTC)
Ok, here it is:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/debbieohi/223866223/

I'll post it in tomorrow's Blatherings. :-)
[info]technoshaman wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 06:42 pm (UTC)
Heh. Sounds to me like we need to re-filk "When I Was a Boy"...
[info]nelladarren wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 05:13 pm (UTC)
...which earlier this year began a 91/2-year journey to the oddball object to unearth more of its secrets.

Hm. Make that "unpluto".

It was kinda cool when they discovered Sedna and claimed that was the 10th planet. But this feels weird now.

Also, we had that German sentence as a memory aid to name the planets: "Mein Vater Erklärt Mir Jeden Samstag Unsere Neun Planeten." And now?!
("My father explains to me every Saturday our nine planets")
[info]peteralway wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 05:45 pm (UTC)
My Very Educated Mother Just Showed Us Nine Planets. Have to change it to My Very Educated Mother Just Showed Us Eight. Meaning they now must change the name of Neptune to Eptune.

A can of worms, I tell you.
[info]technoshaman wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 06:43 pm (UTC)
Wow. Where did you get that icon??
[info]peteralway wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 07:45 pm (UTC)
Astronomy Icon
I'm pleased to say I took that picture myself--it must be a decade ago, now, at Peach Mountain, Near Dexter, Michigan, west of Ann Arbor. The splotch on the left is the Pleiades. The comet on the right is Hale-Bopp. The dish is the University of Michigan's 85-foot radio telescope. I had to crop out the moon at the far left of the image to fit the square userpic format. I keep a framed print of the full image on my wall.
[info]technoshaman wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 08:12 pm (UTC)
Re: Astronomy Icon
Oh, *wow*. Any chance of getting a (digital) copy? I'd love to surprise wifeyness with it; she used to be quite the amateur astronomer and would go nuts over such a thing....
[info]peteralway wrote:
Aug. 27th, 2006 01:05 am (UTC)
Re: Astronomy Icon
(Anonymous) wrote:
Aug. 27th, 2006 01:17 am (UTC)
Re: Astronomy Icon
woot, very impressive. Thanks.
[info]nelladarren wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 07:26 pm (UTC)
Eptune. I like that. It's another word for tv-series soundtrack. :o)))
[info]vixyish wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 09:53 pm (UTC)
Perhaps: My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Noodles?

(Since I'd only ever heard it as "Just Served Us Nine Pizzas". And even then I'd only heard it long after reaching adulthood...)
[info]peteralway wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 11:07 pm (UTC)
My Very Educated Mother Just Showed Us Nothing.

I want my Pluto back!
[info]keristor wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 05:51 pm (UTC)
Mother Very Eagerly Made A Jam Sandwich Under No Protest (Heinlein had 'Jelly' rather than 'Jam', and I believe E was different as well). A for Asteroids...

(But just like with the rainbow colours (and resistor colour code) I remembered the actual names a lot better than the mnemonic...)
[info]technoshaman wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 06:44 pm (UTC)
Lessee.

Mother Very Eagerly Made A Jam Sandwich Using Nutella.

Yum. :)
[info]nelladarren wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 07:30 pm (UTC)
That's disgusting but well to memorise! Thank you! :oD
[info]technoshaman wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 08:10 pm (UTC)
Disgusting? Nutella? It's chocolate and hazelnut!

Dif'rent strokes, I suppose. But, yeah. Cherry preserves and Nutella on a good multi-grain. Yummers. Mom's Jif and grape on Wonder bread's got nothing on this.
[info]nelladarren wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 09:00 pm (UTC)
Nutella is yummie! But not with jam... :oP
:o)
Different tastes - I don't like chocolate together with fruity. Jam is good. Nutella is great. I just wouldn't mix it...

But then I've heard of people eating cheese with Nutella...
[info]nelladarren wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 07:31 pm (UTC)
I need sentences for everything.
Eine Alte Dumme Gans Hat Eier.
Eine Alte Dame Ging Heringe Essen. :o)
[info]katyhh wrote:
Aug. 25th, 2006 11:39 am (UTC)
What is wrong with the good old "Ein Anfänger Der Gitarre Hat Eifer"???
(In English that would need to be a B instead of a H, though ...)
[info]nelladarren wrote:
Aug. 25th, 2006 04:12 pm (UTC)
Never heard that one...! :o)

Wonder which English sentences are around for that...
[info]patoadam wrote:
Aug. 26th, 2006 04:26 am (UTC)
"Every Good Boy Does Fine" for the lines of the treble clef. "FACE" for the spaces.
[info]nelladarren wrote:
Aug. 26th, 2006 06:30 am (UTC)
That's funny - because I've never been able to just "name" them: I always have to "count" up or down from either the G or the C to be able to say "this A here" - those have always been my "landmarks".
However, PLAYING any notes has never been a problem because even though I can't spontaneously name them my fingers can automatically play them.
Weird, hu? :o)
[info]patoadam wrote:
Aug. 26th, 2006 04:30 am (UTC)
Before I looked up "Eifer" I guessed that it might mean "blisters". :-)
[info]nelladarren wrote:
Aug. 26th, 2006 06:34 am (UTC)
Ew...! :o)
I guess you mixed up "Eifer" (ambition) with "Eiter" which is "pus" - and pus is inside blisters...
Blister is "Blase".
;o)
[info]katyhh wrote:
Aug. 26th, 2006 07:53 am (UTC)
But blister would make sense!!! Cuz that's what you get when you don't have calluses yet and play guitar the whole day *g*
[info]nelladarren wrote:
Aug. 26th, 2006 08:09 am (UTC)
D'oh - I took the long way around instead of getting to the easy explanation... figures. :o)
I kind of immediately thought "Eiter" when I read "blister"...
[info]patoadam wrote:
Aug. 26th, 2006 08:25 am (UTC)
Actually, I've never seen the word "Eiter" before, I just remembered what happened to my fingertips when I first started to play guitar.
[info]katyhh wrote:
Aug. 26th, 2006 07:53 am (UTC)
*giggle*
[info]highstone wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 06:32 pm (UTC)
Mind you, some folk think that the Earth is not *really* a planet...

Charles Stross sets this out very amusingly at:

http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2006/08/the_truth_earth_is_not_a_plane.html
[info]fifona wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 06:55 pm (UTC)
I'm strangely devastated and very much sympathise with your cartoon! :-D
[info]peteralway wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 07:47 pm (UTC)
I teach astronomy, and should know better, but I really find that I feel it as a loss.
[info]fifona wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 10:10 pm (UTC)
Debbie's latest cartoon says it all - first Concorde, now Pluto! What next?

:-(
[info]little_cinnamon wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2006 10:14 pm (UTC)
I'll add it to my list of my used-to-be-useful knowledge, along with Czechoslovakia and drachmas...
[info]demoneyes wrote:
Aug. 25th, 2006 08:18 am (UTC)
Mnemonics Very Easily Memorise Just Seven Unusual Names

;-)

(You can view the miscount either as a deliberate aid to memory, as saying that Earth isn't an unusual name, or as an ironic hint that we might lose another one someday!)

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